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ducmons
01-27-2008, 12:48 AM
Yo Sieg. Looks like I can finally keep up with you. Maybe now I can come for a ride in Oregon.

'04: M1000
http://ducatiseattle.smugmug.com/photos/247567487-M.jpg

'06: S2R1000
http://ducatiseattle.smugmug.com/photos/244150840-M.jpg

martys
01-27-2008, 08:52 AM
so, how is it that bikes with essentially the same 1000DS engine show such a wide difference in hp? I think the only diffs with these three bikes is the airbox and exhaust - plus JD and Seig's bikes have power commanders. But a PC-III shouldn't yield more power, should it? I though it just smoothed out the curve by allowing you to fine tune the fuel mix throughout the power band. I mean, I would exect some variance between these bikes but 8+ hp???

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2096/2223431482_c1a007937c_o.jpg


Yo Sieg. Looks like I can finally keep up with you. Maybe now I can come for a ride in Oregon.

'04: M1000
http://ducatiseattle.smugmug.com/photos/247567487-M.jpg

'06: S2R1000
http://ducatiseattle.smugmug.com/photos/244150840-M.jpg

Sieg
01-27-2008, 08:54 AM
That's nice JD, your monster motor is very impressive. I remember riding it and thinking how nice carbs are compared to FI down low, Marty's remap and degree job got mine close to carbs. I hope your "seat of the pants" dyno gives you as big grin as I got on the first test ride. My looked respectable on paper, but the actual difference riding was huge :happy44: Considering how light your bike is she should really haul the mail........might want to weight down the front end a bit :cool2:

PS off to play in the snow!

ducmons
01-27-2008, 09:32 AM
That's nice JD, your monster motor is very impressive. I remember riding it and thinking how nice carbs are compared to FI down low, Marty's remap and degree job got mine close to carbs. I hope your "seat of the pants" dyno gives you as big grin as I got on the first test ride. My looked respectable on paper, but the actual difference riding was huge :happy44: Considering how light your bike is she should really haul the mail........might want to weight down the front end a bit :cool2:

PS off to play in the snow!


Yes, for some reason that bike really feels light. From your description in performance, it's going to feel like a completely different animal. I didn't get to see it on the dyno, but I'm sure my next ride on it will make me grin. :)

ducmons
01-27-2008, 09:34 AM
so, how is it that bikes with essentially the same 1000DS engine show such a wide difference in hp? I think the only diffs with these three bikes is the airbox and exhaust - plus JD and Seig's bikes have power commanders. But a PC-III shouldn't yield more power, should it? I though it just smoothed out the curve by allowing you to fine tune the fuel mix throughout the power band. I mean, I would exect some variance between these bikes but 8+ hp???

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2096/2223431482_c1a007937c_o.jpg


Well, I was told that once my bike got tunned and put on the dyno, they picked up about 7-8hp. It already had the PCIII, but just handn't been tuned. So maybe the PCIII along with dyno tunning really does help. Go for it!!!

martys
01-27-2008, 10:03 AM
Well, I was told that once my bike got tunned and put on the dyno, they picked up about 7-8hp. It already had the PCIII, but just handn't been tuned. So maybe the PCIII along with dyno tunning really does help. Go for it!!!the PS is in now for a PCIII and dyno tune. Hopefully I'll enjoy the same boost you've seen in yours. Oh, and I'm putting race cams in mine as well :happy44:

Sieg
01-27-2008, 10:24 AM
IMO - JD's Monster has had some engine work done, possibly cams, a little head port/polishing, and lightened flywheel. It felt awfully smooth when I rode it on Rock's 1098 release ride. The bike also feels sneaky light overall with a low CG.

Dave R
01-27-2008, 11:36 AM
I don't believe JD's has any motor work other than maybe a flywheel... Maybe MotoDave can chime in on this one ?? Eastside built that lovely bike.
JD has the least restrictive exhaust and intake of the 3 bikes at this point. Scott had full air box, JD has pods on his throttle bodies and shortie mufflers. Marty has only pipe and ECU so far :cool2:


PS...all three bikes are fuel injected Scott

Sieg
01-27-2008, 11:55 AM
I don't believe JD's has any motor work other than maybe a flywheel... Maybe MotoDave can chime in on this one ?? Eastside built that lovely bike.
JD has the least restrictive exhaust and intake of the 3 bikes at this point. Scott had full air box, JD has pods on his throttle bodies and shortie mufflers. Marty has only pipe and ECU so far :cool2:


PS...all three bikes are fuel injected Scott
:confused1 + :confused1 + :confused1 = :confused1 :confused1 :confused1

martys
02-18-2008, 08:42 AM
ok, so mine is now done and mapped and I'm still trailing the pack here.

I already had a lightened flywheel, DP ecu, open airbox and a SHARK pipe. Now it has PC-III and DP cams and it's still not opening up as I had hoped. :(

tourque improved from 59.2 to 61.5 (+3.89%)
SAE hp improved from 76.1 to 78.5 (+3.15%)

this is still far from the monsters mapped earlier.

will a different pipe make an 8% improvement?????


http://www.ducati.ms/gallery/files/1/4/4/0/4/ms.jpg

Jeremy
02-18-2008, 09:43 AM
Aren't dyno results affected by a wide variety of things, such as humidity, temp., etc? I've always heard that unless bikes are dyno'ed back to back on the same day, with the same equipment and tech, that the results shouldn't be directly compared. Maybe this explains the small differences? :confused:

Marv
02-18-2008, 09:49 AM
ok, so mine is now done and mapped and I'm still trailing the pack here.

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Don't feel bad Marty, I follow slower bikes all the time; it's the rider I can't keep up with.

martys
02-18-2008, 11:18 AM
Don't feel bad Marty, I follow slower bikes all the time; it's the rider I can't keep up with.
:headscratch:
I think I've just been schooled... :p

martys
05-29-2008, 07:19 PM
ahem...

just added the Beast-R (http://www.tpoparts.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=61_68&products_id=119&osCsid=7f9073a5b79ff655a106dc53b4dbd127) velocity stacks with K&N pod filters. Dropped the bike off for a map update tonight, but a quick pull on the dyno shows just how big a bang for the buck this bolt on upgrade gives you (6%). The other difference is the Arrow full pipe vs the Shark used in the numbers earlier in this thread.

Before :
80.7hp (sae) and 58.8 trq (sae) or in dynojet numbers
88.8hp (dj) and 64.7 trq (dj).

After :
85.7hp (sae) and 62.1 trq (sae) or in dynojet numbers
94.3hp (dj) and 68.3 trq (dj)

I'll post updated dyno graphs this weekend. Here's a quick pic of the pods on the PS, more pics can be found by clicking the pic.


http://martys.smugmug.com/photos/303774156_ZMs4G-M.jpg (http://martys.smugmug.com/gallery/5052851_3SXbs/1/303773682_HSh2i#303774156_ZMs4G)

duca
05-29-2008, 07:24 PM
Damn, Marty! That rocks!

I've twigged my next HP horizon for the Hyper will involve the intakes, thanks!

Rich Quarre
05-29-2008, 08:28 PM
Nice work, Marty! Good nums, too! Any idea what the hp increase is over just using an open airbox with the K&N flat filter? Looks great with the pod filters, though. Probably sounds a little nastier also. :happy44:

Edit: I took the time to go to the link you provided...they've got the answer to my question. Thanks.