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gregc
02-01-2009, 12:12 PM
http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff259/s4rs888/flattracker.jpg

Dr. Duc
02-01-2009, 12:51 PM
Absolutely! He's clearly on the gas, on the right kind of bike to be doing that, and on the right kind of surface to be doing that. Very cool. With all of the electronic traction control being used in roadracing, I wonder if there will be a resurgence of flat track racing so that we can see people sliding, working at the edge of control, using nothing more than skill to ride the bike? I kind of hope so. It's what I love about rally cars, dirt track racing, Pike's Peak, and so on. Skilled riders/drivers on the edge. No electronics to save their butts if they make a mistake.

ducatiscotty
02-01-2009, 01:32 PM
This one is actually less questionable than the street bike one. Dirt trackers get sidesways like this every race all race. & I mean SIDE ways. There is no reason to believe he loses it after this picture. I also thought that the street bike picture looked like a completely controled situation as well & my guess is he made that turn also.

Jeremy
02-01-2009, 01:43 PM
I vote yes...he pulls it out. :cool2:

Is that a Hayden by chance (#69)?

gregc
02-01-2009, 02:59 PM
This one is actually less questionable than the street bike one. Dirt trackers get sidesways like this every race all race. & I mean SIDE ways. There is no reason to believe he loses it after this picture. I also thought that the street bike picture looked like a completely controled situation as well & my guess is he made that turn also.

That was exactly my point in posting this one following the pavement version. Both riders seem to be completely in control and on the gas. However I must say the flat trackers right leg is a little radical.

Sieg
02-01-2009, 03:09 PM
No comparison, the asphalt guy was playing Garry McCoy, one small problem.............his name ain't McCoy :happy57:

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Gotta love the 2-smokers!

gooey_duc
02-01-2009, 03:18 PM
http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff259/s4rs888/flattracker.jpg

Of couse "I" saved it. :action027 Just ask me how - :happy57:

gregc
02-01-2009, 03:21 PM
3 saves in a row.

http://desmonorthwest.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=8659

Mark
02-01-2009, 03:47 PM
http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff259/s4rs888/flattracker.jpg

He's not totally in control of the situation.

Look at his right foot off the peg. He is trying to regain his balance at the moment the photo was taken. That, or the foot slipped off or bounced off by accident, which would be worse.

So, I say it's NOT a sure thing he doesn't low side a second later.

Il Marzocco
02-01-2009, 10:57 PM
I've spent a lot of time sideways in the dirt and a lot of time falling on my ass. We can't see his throttle hand. He's nearly full steering lock and that's not good. His foot coming off the right peg may mean a bailout, but even if not just think for a second how much we control the bikes with outside leg pressure. Lose outside leg pressure control and it's very hard to save the bike at full lock. My vote is that he lost it.

Lotus54
02-02-2009, 08:13 AM
This guy was a master of the high speed full lock slide.
Not the best picture I've seen but at 80mph he was pretty impressive.

http://www.harleykrxlrtt.com/images/01p-1972-brelsford-3sm.jpg

I was full lock sliding in my avatar- I came very close to high siding it (I couldn't keep turning it, since there was a huge chunk of wood in the way) but somehow didn't loose it. I still don't know how.

I find I do a LOT of steering with the throttle on a dirt bike (and in the car).

Mark

Dr. Duc
02-02-2009, 11:32 AM
He's not totally in control of the situation.

Look at his right foot off the peg...


No necessarily. I used to do that on three-wheelers (on pavement) and dirt bikes on purpose, quite frequently, without crashing. It was a fun way to really hang it out.

bob wells
02-02-2009, 07:28 PM
This guy was a master of the high speed full lock slide.
Not the best picture I've seen but at 80mph he was pretty impressive.

http://www.harleykrxlrtt.com/images/01p-1972-brelsford-3sm.jpg

I was full lock sliding in my avatar- I came very close to high siding it (I couldn't keep turning it, since there was a huge chunk of wood in the way) but somehow didn't loose it. I still don't know how.

I find I do a LOT of steering with the throttle on a dirt bike (and in the car).

Mark
Mark Brelsford, factory Harley. Hellva racer!

Lotus54
02-02-2009, 07:33 PM
Here is the famous picture of Brelsford at Daytona.
If I recall, he gave up racing after that season.

http://springvinmoto.com/albums/album191/Mark_Brelsford_1973_Daytona.jpg

Jeremy
02-02-2009, 07:37 PM
Holy crap!! :scared10:

Mark
02-02-2009, 07:49 PM
Here is the famous picture of Brelsford at Daytona.
If I recall, he gave up racing after that season.

http://springvinmoto.com/albums/album191/Mark_Brelsford_1973_Daytona.jpg

Wonder if he saved it?:scared10:

Sieg
02-02-2009, 08:54 PM
Wonder if he saved it?:scared10:

Wonder if they had the lake in the infield back then? :cool2:

Mitch
02-03-2009, 12:52 AM
Here is the famous picture of Brelsford at Daytona.
If I recall, he gave up racing after that season.

http://springvinmoto.com/albums/album191/Mark_Brelsford_1973_Daytona.jpg
:scared10::eek::scared10: (I can see why this might make you throw in the towel!)

Lotus54
02-03-2009, 11:13 AM
My memory was incorrect.
Mark actually came back the next year, but had another bad crash the next year and gave it up.
I think he ended up in Alaska.

http://home.ama-cycle.org/forms/museum/biopage1.asp?id=32

Mark

Bong
02-09-2009, 05:52 PM
What do you think Greg, does the GOAT save it? :rolleyes:

http://pix.crash.net/motorsport/360/PA540783.jpg

Sieg
02-09-2009, 06:00 PM
I've spent a lot of time sideways in the dirt and a lot of time falling on my ass. We can't see his throttle hand. He's nearly full steering lock and that's not good. His foot coming off the right peg may mean a bailout, but even if not just think for a second how much we control the bikes with outside leg pressure. Lose outside leg pressure control and it's very hard to save the bike at full lock. My vote is that he lost it.

:whistling:


:popcorn2:

gregc
02-09-2009, 06:09 PM
What do you think Greg, does the GOAT save it? :rolleyes:

http://pix.crash.net/motorsport/360/PA540783.jpg

Looks pretty unlikely until I see the #46, then I have to question it. Such a mystique has been built around the man. Do you know if he saved it?

Sieg
02-09-2009, 06:21 PM
Did his team mate save this?

http://www.moppedblog.de/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/colin_edwards_jerez_2008.jpg

gregc
02-09-2009, 06:24 PM
Did his team mate save this?

http://www.moppedblog.de/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/colin_edwards_jerez_2008.jpg

Yes, and waved to the crowd afterwards.

Sieg
02-09-2009, 06:26 PM
I don't think he saved this one:

http://www.motorcyclenews.com/upload/210052/images/1%20Jorge%20Lorenzo%20%20Shanghai%202.jpg

gregc
02-09-2009, 06:27 PM
I don't think he saved this one:

http://www.motorcyclenews.com/upload/210052/images/1%20Jorge%20Lorenzo%20%20Shanghai%202.jpg

The photog saved that one for all time

Sieg
02-09-2009, 06:29 PM
Break check, tire inspection, sidehack practice, dodging the paparazzi???

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r46/Motorbiker_photos/NewsPics2/Edwards-extreme.jpg

gregc
02-09-2009, 06:31 PM
Break check, tire inspection, sidehack practice, dodging the paparazzi???

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r46/Motorbiker_photos/NewsPics2/Edwards-extreme.jpg

What's broken?

molamphy
02-09-2009, 07:23 PM
Break check, tire inspection, sidehack practice, dodging the paparazzi???

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r46/Motorbiker_photos/NewsPics2/Edwards-extreme.jpg

If he were riding my old FJ1200, I'd say he was getting ready to take it into a corner. Can't see if he has pucks velcro'ed to his cheeks, though. It's a technique....

kurtfriedrich
02-09-2009, 07:50 PM
speaking of following someone you trust ...
http://www.motorcyclenews.com/upload/210947/images/casey-stoner-valentino-rossi.jpg

Sieg
02-09-2009, 08:01 PM
What's broken?
Uh, the right footpeg maybe :rolleyes:

Sieg
02-09-2009, 08:03 PM
speaking of following someone you trust ...
http://www.motorcyclenews.com/upload/210947/images/casey-stoner-valentino-rossi.jpg
He's got the inside line, Rossi is figuring "one hiccup and I'll punt him to the infield" :happy57:

gregc
02-09-2009, 08:46 PM
Uh, the right footpeg maybe :rolleyes:

Oh.....you meant he was checking the brake

Scottsst
02-09-2009, 08:54 PM
I don't think he saved this one:

http://www.motorcyclenews.com/upload/210052/images/1%20Jorge%20Lorenzo%20%20Shanghai%202.jpg

what do you think is going through is head at that very second ?

I think it was did I leave the coffee maker on this morning

gregc
02-09-2009, 09:47 PM
speaking of following someone you trust ...
http://www.motorcyclenews.com/upload/210947/images/casey-stoner-valentino-rossi.jpg

I don't think he is following.

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff259/s4rs888/rossi_stoner_corkscrew.jpg

Bong
02-09-2009, 09:52 PM
speaking of following someone you trust ...
http://www.motorcyclenews.com/upload/210947/images/casey-stoner-valentino-rossi.jpg

Amazing riding - and pic!

I won't ride in that position since I don't want to be responsible for taking a friend out in case I make a mistake...but I have no problem riding this close to someone who rides predictably and smooth (like Sara here!)
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o248/bong1098/MF1A2143.jpg